From Group: LG…Rhythms..«xxiv»
** May 11 Sat 10:16 **
￼Dr ChukwuDumebi Nkemcho Nwaokobia Snr/Chris Nwaokobia Jnr￼: Good morning Esteemed House. I see the imprimatur, ambiance, umbrage and presence of Mr. President Dr. Ale in the House this morning gdmrng and welcome Sir. May the hopes and vision for a new and a better Nigeria one for which we here gather come true in Jesus name.
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: Amen. If the people remain spectators till 2015, life in Nigeria would be unbearable.
All these politicians doing as they please is so irritating.
The Queen￼ ￼: Just received this. Thought to share it for whatever its worth. “In 1959, there was an airlift of 280 East African students to the United States to attend various colleges merely aided by a grant from the Joseph P. Kennedy Foundation, according to a September 12, 1960, Reuters report from London. The airlift was a CIA operation to train and indoctrinate future agents of influence in Africa, which was becoming a battleground between the United States and the Soviet Union and China for influence among newly-independent and soon-to-be independent countries on the continent… The point or question is:
Is Africa really not America, Russia and China’s battleground? Do these aforementioned superpowers have a hand in the current crisis in Nigeria? Among those airlifted was Obama Snr!
￼￼￼. Princess￼￼￼: My Queen, I know a participant via one of the operatives.
There is a lot to this.
Olawale Dawodu: Hmmm
Princess￼￼￼: Please house, read all you can about what the west think of China’s activities in Africa.
Yinka Bold: Our crisis is self induced. Has no foreign conspiracy.
Olawale Dawodu: No entirely self induced bro
Yinka Bold: How?
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: @YB, ignorance and greed, lack of self worth. If Africa is not careful, we will go into second colonialism, this time, sold by our leaders.
BIMADE.: Good Morning house,
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: Thanks, my attorney. And same to you my dearest.
Yinka Bold: Self induced… we we we caused the crisis
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: YB, I understand your statement, but we must understand the reality of things.
Yinka Bold: The reality is that no one puts hand in ur brain if you don’t permit it
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: We, Africans would like to have good leadership. The good people we elect shall never have the support of the west and a typical African leader believes that he needs the support of the west.
Take Mugabe and Gaddafi for starters, they tried to put the west in their place, Lybians called on west, they killed Gaddafi and made Mugabe a monster!
What was Gaddafi’s real offence?
D DON…Truth has no colors: None at all
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: He wanted all the gold that comes out of Africa to be refined in Africa and a bullion bank set up for it. Then there shall be central currency backed by the gold. Now, that would have made African extremely powerful. This scared the ‘shit’ out of the west. So he had to go.
They organised and supported opposition and made up reports.
Please people this is the FACT as the CIA has it.
D DON…Truth has no colors: Gaddafi, paid the youth and elderly monthly some social security fee, how many African countries have done that. The west is the architect and motivator of bad leadership in Africa.
Olawale Dawodu: Am beginning to see Princess in another light.
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: What Africans do is follow what the western media say and kill our own people and our future
My Govvy, I have access. Thank God.
Now, what is Mugabe’s offence?
He wanted to avoid another south Africa! African’s land for Africans!
D DON…Truth has no colors: He refused to be cowed
Ib nab Fiberesima: Gdmorning Gov, and good Pple of this House. Pls for those in Abj I am lookin for a furnished duplex to rent for a Week , any contacts plsssssss
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: The westerners there ran to their people and they again picked and empowered a fool to fight for ‘human right’! Which human and what right?
D DON…Truth has no colors: They play on tribal sentiments and use the weakest tribe to ferment trouble or impose them on majority. They sell confusion and anachy yet speak as the bastion of democracy
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: Why cant they practice the same type of democracy in their countries?
Yinka Bold: ‘They’, why can’t u go and induce crisis in the west?
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: YB, I understand your point, but please do not down play the role that ‘experience’ can play in this world. They have mastered this game and it is left for you and I – those who can see through them- to change things! We cannot blame ourselves forever. Action is what is needed!
Self-pity won’t help us. We can blame ourselves forever, but that will do not good.
All in all, Africa is developing at an alarming rate. It took the UK over 400 years to get to the stage that Africa is today, we must recognise this and use it to our advantage.
Olawale Dawodu: Hmmm
Yinka Bold: Princess, we are our greatest undoing… It will take a miracle
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: We are the miracle my Govvy. ‘Only ourselves can free our minds’ – great Bob Marley. They appointed an African lady to bring Africans to the Hague, did they not? There is an international law against arms trade, correct? Which of the arms suppliers ever landed in that court? Can there be buyer if the supplier refuses to supply? If he who accepts bride is as guilty as he who accepts, how then can he who supplies arms be free and the buyer will termed a criminal and thrown in jail!
Olawale Dawodu: Yes o. Profound words
Princess￼￼￼: Those of us that studied history in Britain would agree that people had to do the unthinkable to rescue their nation from the rich and wicked people that controlled things here. Same has to happen in Africa!
BIMADE.: @Princess, that excuse does not fly anymore tho! The world as at when it took UK 400years and USA 2d0yrs is different from the world since 100years ago! Children as against before open their eyes as soon as they are born. My point being, Africa is not developing as fast as it should giving the level of changes and opportunities in the world! That victim mentality has suppressed our ability for so long. Excuses are spent now! The west is only able to manipulate and scheme as much as they do because we have the victim/lazy mentality! We seek for assistance in all things. Look for hands up hands down etc. You mentioned Mugabe, he may have shunned the West but to whose benefit? Ghadaffi was a better leader but we refer to him as better because we are used to dictators clothed in the garment of democracy! Hence DDon asked how many African leaders did what Ghadafi did. The is though, Ghadaffi was no different to the colonial masters towards his people! I went to Libya way before the crisis and I swore never to go back there cos of the level of abuse and oppression I witnessed! To think I later met 2 of his Sons in Abuja through the daughter of a former minister and the wealth and ostentatious life style exhibited even in Nigeria made me even more angry! We may accuse and blame the West from now till kingdom come, The west may have been the Architect of our Misfortunes, but we are the Engineers and builders!
￼Dr ChukwuDumebi Nkemcho Nwaokobia Snr/Chris Nwaokobia Jnr￼: Good morning Esteemed House, mi love unu more than Nkwobi and Ugba =D.
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: @YB, again, I understand your grounds, but we must be realistic with these things!
Olawale Dawodu: Morning Doc
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: 1960 till now makes Nigeria 52 years old. Yes, things are different now, but these different things happen in the west and then trickle down. Personally, I am done with excuses, I am done looking for miracles. I have found the miracle! WE ARE the miracle!
Chief Daniel Ogbegie: 🙂
BIMADE.: @Princess, Gbam!
Olawale Dawodu: True words Princess!!!
The Queen￼ ￼: Who are this we? The Nigerians who still keep living all to God and lives it all to prayers? The Nigerian who believes he is the servant and his leaders the masters? The Nigerian who says, rever him cos he is ur President?
Agama: That ugba ehn
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: My Queen, yes, that same NIGERIAN. You see, it took some time and well executed plan and effort to get that Nigeria there. We must expect that it will take some time and effort to change that Nigerian. And a believe in the knowledge that we can. We have great opportunity. Same God has favoured us with technology. So, it is easier for us! Remember the ‘oga at the top’ case of a few weeks ago? That is a taste of the sort of power we have! All we need is to decide on how to use it.
The Queen￼ ￼: But things are sliding backwards fast! I can’t see any upward mobility!
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: My Queen, please don’t look at it that way. We have to see the tomorrow we want and work for it. It is the only way forward. I tell you, the people that fought for Britain were faced with worse. But they persevered and succeeded. Even those who initially did not see the possibilities were won over within a short period of time.
The Queen￼ ￼: I am sorry I can’t see tomorrow, my gaze is hazy, the horizon is bleak!
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: Then you have given up! And that would be tragic! You have done what they expect! What then would be the fate of the ones after us? It is our responsibility to ensure that they inherit better things – better world, better, environment, better life, etc. This is the duty we have and we must fail! Better to die trying!
It hurts a lot when I hear some African here say they are not interested in African affairs, some even vow never to return to Africa. Those in Africa want to run away and those outside know that it is not everyone that is living the ‘dream’. We must all love Africa enough to fight for her. We can give up. It will not be fair on our children.
The Queen￼ ￼: There u go talking about Africa, a continent still in d back waters of the universe. A people still grappling with backward beliefs in the supernatural, a people who have refused to find a place in d committee of nations, a continent which continues to consume without producing anything beyond food which they do not even care to preserve, a race that contributes almost nothing to mankind but greedily swallows everything d white man dishes on d plate, including his religion! Oh no, when I think of Africa what I see in my mind are images of greedy bastards who hold the people to ransom, people who have refused to take on their destiny, men unwilling to unshakle themselves, human beings who refuse to think!
We have to accept these and other rude facts, accept that we are lacking, before we can effect any kind of change
If we continue to live in denial and self deceit, our continent, nay, our country will remain one sick, crippled giant!
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: Majority of Nigerians have accepted that things are not what they should be. That is the main reason for the quest for change. For you can seek change if you are happy where you are. I think one of the greatest difficulties is making people believe that ‘change’ is achievable.
The Queen￼ ￼: I really want to see change, I want a better Nigeria for my children. If I take them out of the country, they still have only one home, truthfully. But, the fact is the average Nigerian would rather pray than upset the status quo! The average Nigerian will like Abati wait his turn. Even the fiercest public analyst is a Reuben in d making, including many of us here. Its a crazy situation, its a no win! Take Nigeria away from the people, perhaps the people will desire true change. The Nigerian factor in us makes us who we are
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: Yes, for any good thinking African, there is only one home – Africa! The ‘Reubens’ of Nigeria will only exist for as long as the condition permit them. Again, people spent time and effort to create these, it will take time and effort to ‘uncreate’ them. We have acknowledged the ills, it will cowardly to accept that we cannot change things.
And yes there are people here that have already sold out, just for a promise of a piece of the pie! But for me, the work is huge and maybe perilous but success is possible.
I have taken some time to look at the homes of those that have been in government for a while in Nigeria and have observed that even as Nigerians are too scared to fight for Nigeria, the gods are doing it. None of these people have kids that can become anything on their own. I believe that they know this and that is why they find it difficult to leave power. The only good person they can hand over is never their own!
Take a look at the homes of politicians from your state and you will see this. Govt money dealing with their children.
BIMADE.: So Apt queen!
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: The situation is a sad one, no doubt. But we must start to seek solutions.
SHUZI KHAN ￼ The eternal flame.Vis Indolis: Ododo oro!!! Ummmmh!!! Truest truism…
Ladi® http://www.theblackhertageradio.com: Good day all! I have been seeking a better understanding of the forthcoming LG leadership event. I’m struggling with the idea cos I thought going by the vibrancy of the debate in this forum as to the way fwd for the desired change for our country. Is another talking shop really the next thing?
Yinka Bold: Princess, I like your optimism but I am a realist and when I look at the situation in Nigeria, what I see is poverty winning the war. I see people suffering and this is the time to walk the talk
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: Aha! Thank God YB. We are saying the same thing! We are both realistic and that is how we’ve come to know and accept that there is a problem.
Walking the talk is what we have just started i.e looking for solutions.
Yinka Bold:@Lado, I think you should study the essence of the talk shop. We are not giving up on the coming generation. Our generation has joined the rot and we must begin to talk bout the future of our Children. It is all about building a successor generation. It is about skills acquisition and how do we do this? We must bring it to the front burner by educating and enlightening our youths on the need of efficient and effective service. We must change the mind set of our people. Politics has to be service not an avenue to enrich
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: Now I am happy.
Yinka Bold: I just do not agree that the West caused our crisis. We are crisis prone. We have no values
SHUZI KHAN ￼ The eternal flame.Vis Indolis: Did u say Values???
Yinka Bold: Yap. No values
** May 12 Sun 14:43 **
SHUZI KHAN ￼ The eternal flame.Vis Indolis: U mentioned values and Nigerians in the same sentence??? That’s a felony.
Yinka Bold: If we had, we won’t compare who is a lesser evil:D
SHUZI KHAN ￼ The eternal flame.Vis Indolis: We that have some values are hiding it.we r infinitesimal compared to those who don’t.we r over powered and totally subdued. I am livid right now.
Yinka Bold: We just need to hv strong institutions. we just don’t get it
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: That is what they have made of us! A people that take anything they dished out for us and still be looking for miracles.
Yinka Bold: We just need to strengthen our institutions
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: And all these and more will continue to happen until we agree to reject it.
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: YB, have you ever had a serious talk with students?
￼￼￼ Princess￼￼￼: These kids come out university knowing nothing!
Yinka Bold: Princess, that’s another pathetic story
Ogbeni Olawale Dawodu Snr: RECESS!
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